We have browsed the Internet (eg: Foundation-goods test) and have not really improved devices found for this money. The old field, we have self-destructed and need a new one. Whether Neff, Siemens .... btw. AEG Bauknecht and we thought, were definitely the price value for money. The plates need felt really bring more to the water to the boiling point, but as mentioned, still a good machine!