After I, in my original review from 11/20/2013, as a positive element, which I mention Saeco diversity bonus, I would now like to describe even my experiences of this premium. "
If you call up the page of the "diversity premium" to, the following entries are required:
- Serial number
- Title
- First name
- Surname
- Date of Birth
- Street, House Number
- ZIP / City
- Country
- E-Mail Address
- In addition you have to agree to the following terms and conditions:
Quote "Competition" for the Saeco-variety premium:
Rules for the Saeco Vielfalts premium
* The promotion is only valid in connection with the purchase of a Saeco Moltio (HD8769 / 01 HD8768 / 01 and HD8766 / 01) and for individuals residing in Germany or Austria.
* Registration with serial number is only possible once and must be made up to and including 31.01.2014.
* By submitting the online form confirms / buyers / -in that I have read the terms and conditions and accepts them.
* The Saeco Vielfalts premium will be shipped within four weeks free of charge to the postal address specified at registration.
* No cash 100 or exchange of products is not possible.
* The offer is valid only for end consumers, not for dealers.
* Employees of Royal Philips Electronics and other employee in the organization and execution of the project enterprises involved and their dependents are excluded from participation.
* The decision is final.
After entering the data, you get the message "Thank you - we will send your bonus in the next 4 weeks"
When I now inquired after about 8 weeks waiting time at Philips / Saeco, (he) was finally found the solution to the problem of non-delivery, the "premium".
After repeated sending the following data
- Model Number
- Serial number
- Purchasing of the machine
- Date of registration
I finally got this feedback:
Dear Mrs,
Thank you for your patience.
I've checked your concern and must inform you that, unfortunately, you can not participate in this action because the action runs only since October, and only to devices that were acquired in October, applies.
We ask for your understanding.
I wish you a nice evening.
Many Greetings,
Philips Customer
I had the machine actually purchased in late August and paid late October my wife for her birthday.
Since we, very disappointed with this machine were, we really happy that there are at least a little bonus.
That, of course, is our mistake, we, in the complex terms and conditions (see above), have ignored the passage of the acquisition date.
My 2nd Conclusion
Those who feel that the absurd price (699.99 RRP) - now there is the machine for anything under 500, - - allows only the "one-touch functions" Coffee & Espresso and absolutely cheap processing, should get this one absolutely - very useful reviews are here to find Amazon Vine members in 4 and 5 star categories.
I leave it, my 2 star review, further downgrade by this "customer-friendly service", but that was, with absolute certainty, the last purchase of a Philips / Saeco machine.
My actual rating from 11.20.2013 now follows:
First I want to mention, that I might by my previous Kaffeevollautomaten -'m a bit spoiled - Saeco Primea Cappuccino Duo Touch. Anyway I'm trying the pros and cons, the Moltio HD8768 / 01, objectively portray.
The Saeco Primea Cappuccino Touch Duo was acquired in the summer of 2008 - in these 5 years he gave me repair costs - no maintenance or care - about 700, - bestowed. Now it was time again - the multifunction valve gave up his spirit. Another repair of more than 200, - .... In spite of the former purchase price, which was 2-3 times what is now the Moltio HD8768 / 01 costs, my wife and I decided to send our old coffee machines into retirement.
So and rankings of coffee machines were sought on the internet reviews. The only criterion was this time, no 4-figure sum to invest - rather buy a new machine just in case and accept no annual high repair costs.
Ultimately we chose the coffee machine Moltio, from the lower / middle price segment.
Coffee machines Moltio there are 3 classes, which differ in the production of milk foam or coffee / milk products.
We opted for the medium model, because we thought for 2-3 Latte Macchiato in the week, you can live with this comic additional hose and do not need the model with milk carafe. But that this is a mistake and actually also the product photos on the website are misleading Saeco, turned out only later.
Here the differences of the milk froth:
Model 1 - the Cheap
Here is milk foam through a "Classic cappuccino maker" produced - ". Quote from the original product description" means the milk frother is inserted into a vessel containing milk and tried to foam by steam this milk Discover the Barista in while you delicious milk specialties in the traditional way prepare! "
I was never Barista and wants in the future no one will be ....
Model 2 - Intermediate
Here a milk frother is plugged with suction hose for milk frother on and automatically produces the milk foam.
Model 3 - the most expensive
Here milk is poured into a carafe - docked - and produces milk foam fully automatic.
Since I, as I said, did not become a barista, we ordered device model number. 2
When the device was delivered, I was once surprised - was on the box that is displayed device number 3 - 2 was perhaps not available and you have sent you the better, I thought. When unpacking, I realized then, is probably a standard carton for all 3 models ...
Routinely I wanted all parts only times compare with a track / packing list - but there is not, or I have not found until now - that's why I bring my content here on time:
- Kaffeevollautomat Moltio HD8768 / 01
- Power Cable
- Coffee bean container
- Coffee bean container lid transparent
- Coffee bean container lid black
- Coffee measure
- Quick Start Guide
- CD
- Small brush
- Lubricating Grease - probably fat
- Water hardness test strips
The issue of a track / packing list interests me already, because I still do not know why I have 2 Coffee bean container cover and only a container !!! ??? Somehow makes no sense ..
After commissioning, the need for each device its time, I now list the pros and cons from my perspective on.
Benefits:
1 coffee bean hopper can be removed, thus you have the opportunity to work with several containers exchange coffees quickly - suitable for this purpose, is the emptying function of the machine
2. Simple Menu (9 functions) - well after one has set the coffee according to his wishes, needs
you most of the functionality is not always more
3. "One Touch" or even "One Punch" function for coffee or espresso
4. milk frother is also good with skim milk cope (1.5%)
5. coffee tastes very good
6. biggest plus for me - who registered his device until 31.12.2013 at Saeco, gets 2 bean hopper
and 2 kg of coffee
Disadvantages:
1. Power / End is located on the back of the machine - the machine has no role to give you
times to turn a bit or to bring forward
2. Standby flashes every 2 seconds - annoys me more than a steady light
3. No printed manual - buy such a machine only people with PC ???
4. Drawer for water tank and coffee container rest are a joke - just for the water tank - I always hope,
filling it with water caught my wife and I am not the culprit, the aperture from the water tank
tear off
5. The machine does not detect if too little water in the water tank is - so you can sometimes even his coffee in
Obtain liquor Size
6 buttons or control panels - I do not know what to call it - here were simply out of the housing plastic
Herausgeschlitzt keys "- the machine must be held in one hand, when you press a key or
pure squeezes - otherwise you move the machine - called "One Touch" should better here in "One Punch"
be renamed
7 machine automatically performs the rinse cycle through - then there is no container under the spout, running the entire
Water in the drip catcher and sprinkle the area around the machine
Cappuccino or latte macchiato 8 can not create by "One Punch" - here milk must first foamed
(must be manually stopped) and then coffee or espresso are made
9. I find misleading in this context, the key designation Cappuccino / Water - wanted my brother in law
probably make a cappuccino, a cup placed under the coffee dispensing and pressed "Cappuccino" -
as nothing happened, he pressed "coffee" and lo and behold, the steam nozzle sprayed merrily on my fridge - only now he knows that one can not establish with keystroke Cappuccino easy
10. Normal Latte macchiato glasses (13 cm) not exactly fit under the cappuccino maker but under the
Coffee output
11. The display or rather the screen is designed in memory of the nineties - I myself am
Asked early why there always "UP" is - until I came on it, which should be the ne coffee cup - my
Error
Conclusion:
I can only speak for myself and not make any recommendation. You must be perfectly clear about what you want - for me, the description and the image of this model (macchiato with cappuccino or latte) misleading. So you would be able to map the cheapest model with cappuccino - after all, that has a cappuccino maker.
The coffee tastes better than from a coffee maker, each is quite clear - but that I get for 200, -.
The keys, the water tank and the rubber of the steam nozzle are absolutely inferior in my eyes. I type in the following order of spare parts required: 1 steam nozzle - to triple the plugging is always difficult and nozzle wobbles already 2. Water tank - would be surprised if the 1 year than is 3 keys are probably to guarantee end bless the temporal ... ,
After 3 weeks of operation and about 60 cups in water hardness 1 and inserted water filter machine already prompting you to descale - but you can just ignore.
For me the whole package in terms of price / performance is not more than 2 stars is worth - even if the coffee tastes.
Finally, I have my 'old' 'real' coffee 'FULL "automat but brought in for repair ... The saying of my extremely friendly coffee machine fitter now brought me something to smile -" The trend is for second machine "...
