I have searched for the first Breiversuche bibs with sleeves, so that the clothes are protected and am very happy with these bibs by Playshoes. For the strongly coloring Paps I still bought the blue and the red bib, you can see the carrot patch not equal. That they are underneath with foil, is a plus point again. The bibs go easy to put on and cover with a 4-5-month-old child is still partly the legs. The neckline is unfortunately something really big, but I just do not a "normal" bib underneath and you're not through. The velcro holds but good.