I had once bought two pair of these socks. They were ok, although a few users had the length (too long) criticized. Now I have purchased these supposedly same socks. Result: the other section. Quite difficult to attract (hard to get across the instep). Despite no longer compression (but is ok for me) and hard as a board after 5 washes. I throw these things away jetz. The question is whether I will buy again sometime - in the hope that I catch other again :-)