This product sizes about two sizes too big, at least when compared with the usual Groessengestaltung other manufacturers (eg Schiesser, Calvin Klein, Trigema, etc.). Someone who is as narrow as I (at 181 cm), fits loosely here twice in the sweater size L. The part is not far away in form of a square and hangs like a bag on a. If you like this, as for reasons of fashion, for whom the sweater is just right. For smaller people are other brands more suitable. Have simultaneously Trigema Size L Rolli bought, which is only half as wide and better material quality, but almost twice as expensive. Durability after washing: no statement possible. When unpleasant surprises, here is an update ...