I rate IENN ancient shopping - who knows if there is still the bundle. These cartridges were a stroke of luck, since the brother is also a workhorse and the old appliances are not a chip on the cartridge. If there are these "things", then a strong buy recommendation. Liesen is empty pasta until almost nothing was in it and are perfectly on plain office paper. On photo paper, we have not tested it, so the assessment is confined to office paper, 80 - 100gr, Hader free.