I have installed the Visaton speakers in my wooden ceiling in the guest bathroom. Clearly, the question is what can I expect at the price! I get a weatherproof all-rounder made of plastic, with soldering tags without glands for cable. The sound corresponds to a very simple full-range speaker. Because the diameter not quiekig or scratching, but just very "tinny" with completely oversized middle, without any ups and no rich bass. Think will again make an exchange one day here. First, it is sufficient but for completely. In master I will certainly prefer another solution. Even if the speaker is low, he deserves in my opinion no 5 stars