I already have the Gonso Jenny V2 in a 3/4 length and find it simply super, seamlessly fits, perfectly, pinches anywhere. It is washed for 1.5 years every week and still looks great! I wear them for spinning. Now I wanted to have a comparable pants Gonso in short. I can absolutely can not tolerate when the leg has any silicone or other slide stops. Hence my choice fell on the Lisa, which also has the same great, yet hardly bulky padding as Jenny. The substance of this short Gonso also like the Jenny feels very comfortable on, very soft and not so funny "plastic-like". The leg is very pleasant and does not cut into. Slightly have me, the front seams of trousers disturbed, running in the mid-thigh and the Jenny has not, however, may be that the pure habit. I have tried on the pants only briefly, so I can not comment on how the impact of the seams in several hours of wearing, whether they be ever so hot noted. The pants have also front a very small inside pocket, which is very helpful to z. B. accommodate my ever entrained "emergency handkerchief". Unfortunately I have final thigh and for the pants on the inside of the selfsame sat something like prestige, looked really funny. Therefore, I have returned with a heavy heart and now I have still no shorts for the summer. I would have ordered a size larger, it wanted but then because of the front seams not. Since I'd rather wait for a seamless version, as I'm used to it. Conclusion: Those who have stronger thighs, perhaps should better order one size larger. Only because of the front seams, I prefer a point from, but that is my subjective perception, the quality appears (if you can tell a short Trying) to be quite good.