Hello So purely optical is these pants really nice color bit too bright but that's not bad. Hierdas big BUT ... I wear a 36/38 depending on the season: D ... and ahbe my pants here in 40 !! ordered because I just wanted them to not fit snugly but comfortably rumschlabbert. From because I have not even fit with my ass in the pants ... so in terms of size 6-8 size larger here if you want to be comfortable !! Processing is unfortunately not so hot