Tie came first with Nähfehler. The second version was then, however error-free. The tie can bind relatively difficult because it is very stiff. Otherwise, it wears well expressed and looks really very high. Would I buy it again.
Update after a few months: tie holds super. Meanwhile, they can bind better and has become truly one of my favorite ties (although I also which have for more than 60 euros). Am 100% satisfied.