I now have the 2 pillows I've ordered here, almost egg 3/4 year and what can I say: I am totally disappointed ... In the meantime, the pillows are shrunk to half as if almost no down is splashing around. In the beginning she was fairly firm and you could wonderfully it lie - it is not much left. I'm trying to move them by washing again to puff, but have little hope. No pillow that I had been having so quickly given up the ghost. FYI: I use two of these cases, in addition to my big - 80x80 pillow.