Hab let me blinded by the design and thought it will be just what reasonable for the money. The toilet seat for more than 100 is not at all 4 points to (according to V + B that's right) Now you sit with the total weight on the hinges and the meaning I do not get that kncken the hinges bugging me too. The Quick Release dissolves only one side Quick, the other side holds bombproof also Softclose annoying, that's so slow that you would like to help out best (the seat, however the stability centremost I've ever seen). Have one bought with Ceramicplus and one without, and the money this can save, there is no advantage, after rinsing sit on the C + water beads which do not flow out to form the without running cleanly without water pearls, maybe that's OK so but I find it beautiful without the water beads that even adhere to the side of the bowl, while cleaning one notices no difference (C + rather worse to clean). What is the worst is that the departure by the shape (to square) can conditionally and deep very difficult to clean, water consumption 5l as one can only laugh, must indeed 3 times rinsing until I the course have brushed clean and it seems even then always something running back since the floor after some time (at the next visit of the village) always is dirty and looks as the toilet was already 10 years old, both have place at the lowest in the cast a depression as if here afterwards which was set up, the looks ugly and here also collects the dirt. The thing was never tested with safety after it was drawn. I find it a boundless mess for that price to get something on the market, any other toilet which has so far come to me among the most interesting aspect was worlds better than to clean this shit ... Mir is a mystery how these other toilet can be described as good, every hardware store toilet makes it better. However, the Super V + B the toilets withdraws but what you buy then ??? In addition, an acquaintance is also enthusiastic about his V + B but it has a with Spühlrand.