I was only skeptical about this Grinder with conical grinder as one reviewer criticized the grind. But since I did not want to spend 100+, I have tried anyway. Lo and behold, the grind is quite enough. Some Espressipulver you can buy, though a tad more powdery, but many just do not. From the side: When the machine grinds as the commercial espresso, then it is not so bad, right? So I am satisfied: the workmanship is good, the grind fine and the matt black look like (even if the matter is the drink, which ends up in the cup).