Looking for cheap shin pads I ordered this one of Okami in size L. They are available in sizes S, M, L and XL. Since I neither here on Amazon, even on the manufacturer could find information on how big this because I want to mention here at least once, that I at 181cm height and normal slim lower legs only fit the size L, M is too short at this height , The savers are made in Pakistan and are actually quite well made, the Näte are meticulously crafted and seeing no fringes. They sit quite firm and pleasant, so disturbing after a short time already no longer. The foam acts a bit hard. He is quite strong and is made from very dense foam, they have on impact a rather "dull" padding. But this is just as well. Warning, the fabric rubs off pretty strong! One should therefore saver Wash thoroughly before first use! The problem here, they are absolutely contrary to the product description is not machine washable, hand wash undbedingt (unfortunately allows the padding for not Mr. exempt). I made the mistake and put them in the washing machine at the lowest speed, unfortunately, the substance of any of the saver has been totally abraded and thus ripe for a ton (or back to Amazon). Among the long-term properties I can not say anything because I could use the exercise only once. Price / performance is actually okay, because these misleading product description that can quickly lead to the destruction of the product, and the strong staining, there are however significant point deduction!