First and foremost I wanted to test out this one as offering the TV. I ordered and arrived very quickly and the pans sent. After the first test, I have to say, super quality as well as what is promised there that does not adhere, agrees. But in the big pan, I have to say, unfortunately, already black points have accumulated on the outside wall. Could be, of course, that the pan does not really stand on the plate. Since this (currently, anyway) is just a blemish and the roasting result is not affected, because sometimes I see over it. Therefore I say at this time. Super value for money and a strong buy recommendation.