I've never experienced at Camel. The laces are too short and from flat leather. One can not pull or open to get into the shoe properly the laces. A node is to make difficult and then also looks weird. Too Bad. The sole is really hard and thin, and I had probably not pay attention, that is fully bonded to the shoe. My last 6 pairs of shoes Camel talking about 3 years - then they verlohren all gradually their sole - the glue did not hold. My cobbler always scolds the industrial adhesives.