First, the capsule is perfectly realized: very recently tested on a machine and "ancestor", everything went well because there is no play when the capsule in place and the machines can give all their pressure. I've never tried this No. 12 of Carte Noire and I really enjoyed it. Back from Italy where I had consumed a significant amount of espresso, I found this variety through "intense", and with great pleasure, a little of the spirit of this powerful and generous flavor without bitterness j 'particularly appreciate. In comparison with capsules (or pods since I also has a Senseo) type "strong", the capsule Carte Noire No. 12 offers more power without this being at the expense of subtlety. A very good product.