Really a fantastic quality at this price. At first I was skeptical given the reviews. Could indeed be louder Billigheimer. But nothing there! I buy clothes professionally for 25 years and have found a few exceptions, no such good value for money. Prima processing, very good fit and an overall harmonious appearance. Conclusion: Anyone who wants can also spend 100 or 200 euros for a bike pants, but need not. Here goes also for a small price!