I can only warn all potential buyers! The pan pointed 1 x liger use with commercial timber crockery a defect in the coating! If you try to claim they wanted to tell me to have "scratched around" with improper utensils in the pan! For further cooking experiments with wooden utensils immediately occurred more defects in the coating! Mangelhafteste quality that is under me come so far !!!! :-( And the customer is the loser! No purchase recommendation !!