The Krups EA8050 is my 2 fully automatic (1.Saeco Viena) and I'm thrilled! The entire build quality is great, the facilities can each strike "Normal" Coffee heart beat faster and it tastes delicious no matter which option you choose. I looked at a lot of machines in the consumer electronics market and can also be showing off and can say with certainty that 80% of the fully automatic machines are overpriced and I recently met with the Krups which I had not at first noticed because I thought 379 euros incl. Xs6000 Cap.set can nix suck, far gefehlt.Hier agrees the price / performance ratio.