Hello! I ordered these pots because of the good reviews but I'm totally disappointed !!!!! So either I have received a defective production or that are really all that bad. Even after about 20 times Dishwasher blacken the pots on the floor yet dermasen so, so I pan bases after washing now not even may wipe because my whole trockehandtücher already "eingesaut" are that the towels are just black from soot and that no longer works out. I have at the beginning thought it maybe to my herd is but this is not so. So personally I would buy this Topfset NEVER AGAIN !!! Too bad because the design I find it really nice!