This bag is immediately broke down during the first use. Since I found the pocket of the optics quite pretty, I have converted into a Buterls business with a new bag. These broke down right at the 1st use. Both times it was the zipper. He was also so badly processed and of poor quality, which could only break. I must say that the bag was not full to the brim, but only packed with sports equipment, and even that was enough to destroy the zipper. The complaint in Butlers business was then an ordeal - I had to wait for my money 4 months, I would be the people in the Hotline and business went not constantly on your nerves, I would have seen the money ever again. Have since bought nothing at Butlers and will also probably no longer do it.