I bought before my last Skiuraub me this jacket. Against the workmanship and quality of the jacket there is nothing to say, everything as advertised and actually common with Maier. But I had the jacket for the first time on a ski vacation when it snowed. After about 2-3 minutes in tug the jacket on the arms was already wet. After about 10 minutes and at the shoulders up very wet.! I'm in such weather onion technique, so mehere layers clothes and think, I've noticed thus no moisture. But what is at rainy spring or autumn days? Since then one has actually not much under the jacket underneath, except perhaps a sweater or T-shirt. The jacket will now work with Inprägniermittel times and let's see what it does.