Have a Golf IV and a TomTom Go 930. I'm using the original holder of Navis and unfortunately this does not stop at the desired position of me in the middle of the windshield (curvature too strong). Because of the good reviews, I then ordered me these plates. Did that the plates to a not stick on rough surfaces the same experience. In addition, the neck of the origialen holder is too short. If the charging cable of the Navi used, the connector is down out too far, the Navi pushes upwards and thus the suction cup then has no right contact more to the plate.