When Sportswear has become a choice between cheaper discounters goods and brand goods of sports shops with partly astronomical ideas. That may be useful for Antarctic explorer or climber 8000, here in Germany it is rather overdressed. The Gregster ladies cycling pants meets our requirements for normal cycling, the Po is padded and warm weather bike pants is good to use. When my wife she sits pretty much the lower collar closes well. Nevertheless, I would not necessarily order the pants in the Internet, but they prefer to try on. Here we get lucky and it fits. Otherwise neatly processed, hopefully it will soon again beautiful!