Sorry, but this disc does not fly further than 3 meters. And even at this distance you have to throw left unchecked, it arrives just sodas. What the manufacturer has, thought his allegation, good flight characteristics is beyond me. I really wanted to buy the bigger and had accidentally bought smaller. Will no longer know whether the larger flies better. Get your dear ne small 1 Frisbee to practice with the kids. I had also ordered an Ultimate 179g and this community my daughter with my technique loosely over 10M. Only with the objectives klappts not like that. (With a proper Frisbee aligns will automatically shut) The Sunflex does the opposite