Did my pants ordered in size L, wearing otherwise the size 38/40. Unfortunately, pants did not quite fit. The trousers hung like a sack to me, it really did not look good. The protectors for the knees were incredibly hard and the wearing of pants overall was not good. I just felt uncomfortable in it. Processing was for that price but good. I have the pants returned and bought a pair of pants in the store. Trying a motorcycle pants should have done the business. I have the experience made- more expensive pants, the better it was of the processing, the fabric and the fit. No purchase recommendation!