Very good alternative device

Very good alternative device

Melitta E 960-107 silver Kaffeevollautomat Caffeo Bistro -Aromaeinstellung poker pro Milchschaumquirl (household goods)

Customer Review

It makes it not so easy with the purchase of a coffee machine ... especially not when it comes at some point around the dreamed, hopefully long holding fully automatic machines for> = We looked around in stores and non-specialized trade, have let us advise, bela Bern and betratschen and have really had all - DeLonghi, Saeco, Bosch, Siemens, Jura ......
What a first strikes again, is yes, that tends to Saeco chromüberzogenem plastic, Bosch and Siemens to some extent the same as peas in a pod, Jura is exorbitantly expensive (gna gna - felt I mean ... the price-performance ratio yes). .. and so on ... As you wonder, on what criteria a purchase can ever fix. What you take now? It is because so hopelessly lost, or what you think?
We then come across a detour on a Melitta machine. It was like this that I had noticed in a shop, that the equipment of Saeco on an extra base were that (meaning "Melitta Motion") pursuant to consult the seller as "Melitta Dingsda" emerged. Melitta Motions How were used because there was no other adequate way, the machine forward and pull back turned out in the shop.
A quick, interested glance at the Internet gave us a surprise: Who establishes a foundation for coffee machines and I know otherwise only for filter bags, which can also build coffeemakers. To fully automatic machines to be exact. Exactly in the price range in which wanted to move and exactly in the quality of the class I want to buy anything for the various strange experiences that I had with Philips equipment of Senseo class.
You have to say that we do. (My family and I) come from the "Dolce Gusto" segment and wanted them gone, because the prices for those who are more than "social drinker", have become totally unacceptable Where then? Eben: fully automatic machine, coffee beans, good. Whether this is a real improvement or a good deal, in fact, one would have even calculated. So a fully automatic will cost quite a lot - so much that you could probably buy over the years of the price difference between Dolce Gusto capsules and fully automatic. But whatever the case:
Melitta enthusiastic immediately with a product series that had washed. It has been here even in the smallest devices already sophisticated solutions, which seemed to me some extras like "Milchaufschäumpulver" and like a bit weird. Since the innovation had then exaggerated a little. But the valent housing, the relatively good reviews at Warentest + Co and the generally significantly to remember Experience Melitta from the "professional devices business" convinced.
The goal was actually a cheap machine like the Caffeo Solo to purchase. 350 would have been enough for the family budget. Unfortunately, however, would be foaming fallen by the wayside. That would be true with a forest and meadows-frother (Melitta also offers very good foamer to) accomplish can, but really great, I found this idea not then. So what to do? From Caffeo Solo there are versions that incorporate a steam frother - ie roughly a steam nozzle. Not more. Point. Questionable whether this brings something to me, I thought so, and have dug a little more. Is come to light that it just above the Caffeo solo segment of Melitta even are devices that operate under "Caffeo Bistro". Here we have been right at home, especially as the devices with Aufschäumern come along, really aufplustern the milk with a whisk to genuine foam. Bingo. Bought.
Someone who seeks other "specific" features is, the rest of Melitta product range certainly make some finds. I propose here a comparative prior visit to a convenience store; However, you should go there with the intention "not to buy today, but just to look." This has also helped us a lot.
Melitta has certainly really something for everyone and strives to halt very pleased to be everybody's darling, which I think from the perspective of end users totally good, because the range is consistently high quality, balanced simultaneously in price and always well prepared by the price-performance-wise , Cheap affects nothing. Not even in the "small".

Respect. the prices, please exercise caution: When Melitta machines you should definitely pay attention to how prices evolve straight. There are often even offers of Melitta-machines in which a flapping ears. We bought our Bistro in effect for 40 euros more than the Caffee solo, just because a dealer wanted to get rid of his inventory. That can happen to you with a little patience also.

A few important key points yet:
- Saving? Sense! You can save anything on the Melitta Caffeo Bistro. Programs for individual users or a timer does not exist. For purists like micht great for some other a killer criterion. Ich finds halt unnecessary.
- Two coffees: The bean container is divided so that, for example espresso and
- Marc-drip water topping cleaning frustration: can in Caffeo Bistro ever arise when you consider that the machine constantly cleans (!). One can there but on the standby time (to Standby is cleaned and then again afterwards) intervene quite controlling.
- 1 cup = 1x Beans: here is per cup ground once. One gets so do not serve the usual in other machines 1/2 diluted Schmuh if one takes two cups at a time (which is possible)
- 2 cups at a time (see previous point) possible
- Drawback "urination": if you want to tip the water from the drain pan in the sink, then that's not a cramp or battle, but sometimes a nerve - but only a minimum. Reason: there is on the shell not really a really suitable as such a spout through which the Schmodderwasser can rauslaufen clean. So you have to wipe the drain pan from the bottom almost after each pouring again. Design flaw? No Idea. Nerve does it me in the morning anyway sometimes. Purely subjective.
- Nix LCD: well, ... but LED. The display is in any case very reduced. One gets displayed only the most important selection of points on the indicator light above basically. A real feedback does not deliver the machine. Whether the buttons are equipped with LEDs, I did not even know precisely. I therefore deduce it anyway. The machine is still relatively easy to understand:
- The operating manual is illustrated in detail, describing what to do and when, and can generally compared to other manufacturers' instructions (Sae * cough * co) no question unanswered. Very nice is the fact that the machine came with an approximately DIN A-3 large maintenance sheet with key information, that will be perfect to stick to the inside of the enclosure door.
- Support: It has now been several times heard and read that Melitta allegedly not being accommodating and / or repairs take long. Mir is something not yet come and I would claim that one can also happen "times" with various manufacturers. At least I have not heard that at Melitta devices surges were distributed or parts that were under pressure have not withstood this pressure and have flown the device owners around the ears. Just happened acquaintances of us at a competitive product ;-)
- Adjustable grinding: to once again call a definitely positive point the grinder should be mentioned. There is at Melitta made of steel and is relatively loud, but to befüttern for example, also with coffee powder (if you have time to block a third variety of coffee at the same time). Here also a Note: You will from time to time to explain that steel is no longer "up-to-date" is now ceramic is "in". That may be so, but with respect. Durability the two materials do little, with the steel mill is at my discretion front, because here I really go completely without scruples and with food / taste genuine grease to simply times and may well isses. Here is valued Melitta technology in action and therefore can be expected robustness.
- "I'm so hot": That's what you'll say when 93 degrees Celsius hot coffee comes out of the machine. The Bistro does what it promises: It makes HOT! (Yes, capitalized with an exclamation mark) coffee. For some a must and therefore definitely worth mentioning. To me almost a shortcoming, because I is not cold enough, the lowest temperature level ;-) But you can not have everything: -D
- "High, higher, ... is no longer": the conclusion of a drawback: The height of the coffee spout is unfortunately limited in Caffeo Bistro on 130mm. That's enough for most items, but we had to look for example relatively long time until we had a jug that matched under these behämmerte height underneath. There are versions in which one or two more centimeters happen and when competing models is perhaps even to get even more - but in the end seem 130-140mm something to be as industry standard. Who now - like me - (!) Wants to go and a great thermo cup of Starbucks fill in as a machine, which will inevitably fail. Small Starbucks cups fit the way easily.
In our daggers Gusto I could avoid this problem by the fact that I removed the drip catcher and the cup was then placed in there - at the Bistro that is not possible then. Not tilting. For me the device is therefore not suitable at all --- Buhuhu! ;-) Jokes aside: This is a "gotcha" with whom I can live. But you should remember that you worried for such cases a pot that one assumes.

Speaking of "insinuate". An all-last point, I have:
The continual cleaning of the machine - in other fully automated is the similar (keep in mind that as a newcomer!) - Is always pressed a gush of water from the coffee spout during flushing and pladdert into the receptacle or on the grid on the container. It looks fast dingy and the container is still full faster than he already does anyway. We have become accustomed to place a cup underneath and catch the mucky water directly. Maybe this is also for you what.

Conclusion:
Overall, despite minor shortcomings mini a perfectly happy-making device. I do not want to miss the coffee from the Caffeo Bistro and am glad that we chose for these fully automatic instead of accessing the first best offer.
But let me correct that Saeco and Co certainly have its raison d'être. You are not qualitatively clearly settled below the Caffeo Bistro; let alone Bosch or Siemens, who are traveling in comparable price levels - BUT (! But the great): Melitta offers value. Anyone - like me - it is when something already robust, sophisticated and high quality looks on its own, and this claim will also fulfill that provides the chromed plastic rubbish aside. The buttons on the Melitta are indeed working well from this material, but they are effective even in turn-quality and robust - from the gem. Self-test even dishwasher-safe steam-stirrer never mind. All in all, we are talking at the Bistro and other Melitta machines simply by a round thing that many but perhaps still too reduced is because as milk containers missing. I am of the opinion that Melitta omitted something deliberately, because the ick factor in internal Milk tanks and milk cans-on-the-table-next-frames is not to be despised.
Overall, in any case 5 points. And often in more.

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