Flow and Flow Dynamics, dissipative self-organization in complexe system have Attracted me more than 10 years ago. As a consultant for transforming work and leadership I worked with various insights - so Mihaly's - successfully, but found thatthere is a "higher non-evolutionary" C3-order (Creator, Creation, Creature) That Can not Be Modelled by simplified Darwinian chaos theories , This step HOWEVER what Possibly only by considering what Mihaly is writing about. Thanks to That I joined my partner, Dr. Peter Meier, to further develop his APS Applied Human Science to model real human system From Their (predictible) outcome!