My daughter (12) took a cheap breeches for entry. She currently contributes Gr.164 in normal pants. After studying the other reviews I decided Gr.170 to choose for them. Now the pants legs are a little too long, but it fits obenrum. Carding is better than pinching ;-) Otherwise, the pants after 3 washes. Still in a good shape and grip The artificial leather of full garnish served its purpose. I am happy!
