The quality I also think properly, the big BUT, I have found only this, because it will fit almost any other charms on it ... I bought today by ESPRIT two Charms and this carabiner fit only with "sorrow and distress" at the Ring drum that fit of VINANI example at all. So if you opt for the fossil-Charmcarrier chains unfortunately have to be careful with followers of other brands very. The support of the Fossil stainless steel chain it is not z. B..