Better than its reputation! 1

Better than its reputation! 1

Detomaso Automatic Stainless steel case Stainless steel bracelet Sapphire crystal SAN REMO Automatic Diver's Watch Classic blue / silver DT1025-H (clock)

Customer Review

Update v. 16/08/2013
Meanwhile, the number of my San Remo has grown to 3 (blue / silver, black / gold, black / black).
The members all some slack, but no more than, for example, high-quality watches as my 3 Seiko Sportura, 2 Citizen Super Skyhawk, Breitling Colt or
Tag Heuer Professional and less than my Nautec. So that's totally OK
It is interesting that all 3 bracelets feature a wetsuit extension, the blue / silver clock has a 100% strength polished bracelet, which is particularly beautiful, but little easy care. Beauty just comes at a price.
Opening and closing funktionniert perfectly, maybe a little harsh, but it is not a cause for criticism, others have also, new bracelets of Swiss watches that cost as much or more as the whole San Remo (just one will receive this week COD, would first quickly plunder the account to the bank ...)
Yesterday I let shorten bracelet no. 3: This time I wanted to make it not only with only 2 hands, thus guiding to Karstadt, flipping through 4.50 Öro.
Was a good thing I have the clock on the counter firmly held and the watchmaker has then simultaneously off both screws at the end of the pins and screwed (with some Loctite). Was a breeze!

In summary, the bracelet for the price is really good!

The bezels have some play when turning, but it's very minimal and usual for the price range. Better it is in the expensive Seiko or Citizen where there is absolutely nothing moves.
The screwed crowns show already clear that it is budget-watch:
When unscrewing it goes for the experienced Uhrbesitzer not uniform, it turns a little too easy, then suddenly schrabbt and scratch (Set Date) the thread a little ... In the first position is simply too much play and everything spongy, is in the second position better, but still clearly at the level of "inexpensive" not to say "cheap".
So clear case: In the San Remo does not just tinkers a fine drive, but it starts immediately and runs with 5 steps per second. In this way, the second hand to make no problem the second marks.
I can about the accuracy actually not lament: These are nunmal Automatic, the quartz movements, the water may not be enough and you have already adjust 1 x / week. My 4 or 5 Nautec are no better.
This raises the question 'how long does the shaky crown with the "? As a precaution, I have clarified in my watchmaker what it would cost to installing a new drive: 50 Thaler all included. In one of my Tissot normal maintenance costs even more!

As visually similar watches with Automatic I have several Nautec Deep Sea, some Invicta, Seiko 5, a Longines Conquest Sea, a Rolex Submariner, a Revue Thommen and there is certainly still more alternatives. So you have plenty of choice as an alternative in all price ranges, not to mention quartz versions, especially of Citizen, Nautica, Invicta, Orient, Seiko ...
With Amazon France a disgruntled customer posted as a comment to my review there "DeTomaso watches are to look at, not to be worn around". That is certainly true for some of the cheapest models. In San Remo, and not at the San Marino certainly not.
This clock is not worse than the others in the price range. What this were not so, I would not have bought over time 3 thereof.
The with black dial, blue bezel and glossy casing / bracelet I find particularly beautiful and very well done. I know of no other clock of this style, which has a better appearance.

One more word:
I have vigorously shaken in recent weeks by the rotors to throw these 3 clocks and wind the springs. The watches are still very.

Conclusion So confirmed:
Can you buy!

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Ursprungliche review:
So I created this clock twice: In Gold / black and blue / silver.
Bracelets I myself cut, with corresponding Watchmaker tools (Proxxon vice, beryllium Screwdriver Set).
I am not a watchmaker but when I read here that a watchmaker denigrated the bracelet as a "total misconstruction", then I have to say that is utter nonsense.
This is a normal bracelet with folding as it is installed in hundreds of clocks, only - and this is the point - that the members are not kept pace with expanding pins but with screw pins. The trick is that normally, for example, at Rolex, the pin at one end has a thread at the San Remo but the pin at both ends is screwed.
That's pretty darn hard at the same time with 2 superfine screwdriver to screw on both sides at the same time and hold the bracelet: This requires 3 clever hands and the man has only two.
Usual Bracelet Holder can not be used there because the bracelet held horizontally and is accessible only from one side.
Therefore, the bracelet must be clamped vertically in a vise and Precision Engineering I use for the small but heavy Proxxon with ball joint. The watchmakers have but usually not.

I admit that this is no picnic! It usually takes me a bracelet from both sides to cut in about 2 minutes (in Rolex) to 5-6 minutes (at Seiko, Invicta, Tissot, Orient etc). In the San Remo I have hard geschufftet an hour and that's not for the faint of heart, because the screws at the end of the pen are only fractions of mm in size and you may only use tools demagnetized.

Long story short, the bracelet is by no means a "total Fehkonstruktion", but the holding pins between the members are extremely difficult to handle. This applies by the way also to the heavy San Marino (which I have also 2). This complicated pins I'd already called a bad design, it would be a hundred times easier to use cost-saving and reliable Rolex pins with just one screw.
To secure the microscopic screws I use a tiny droplets Loctite 243 Threadlocking, medium strength, no. 29687th
Conclusion: The früstrierter Amazoner should change the watchmaker.

Now we have talked enough about the bracelet, we come to the main part, the clock.
It's no secret that the so-called EIA are from the fairy tale world and that the clocks are from chinnesischer large-scale production. There are so-called designer watches..
In the boards owner of classy watches have nothing but contempt for DeTomaso and in the reviews is often reported by Sloping crowns and dial components. Because where there is smoke, there is fire tell a wise saying.
Because I can wear only one clock (usually a Beitling, a Seiko, an omega ...) I throw my DeTomaso automatic watches like a yoyo to raise them (I allow myself no winder for hundreds of euros). I do the same with my kinetics, Ecodrive and the rest of them and I hear how the weight of the rotor up to 5 second intervals. Here accelerations arise as playing tennis, which are not determined by cardboard and sometimes I do that for 5-10 minutes. So far, I still is no clock fallen apart, Toi, toi, toi ...

The San Remo is not the top model, the San Marino is still massive, harder, resistant to 1,200 meters, has the same housing as the Deep Blue 2000m. But after all, the San Remo has a lot to offer: sapphire glass, water resistant to 30 bar, factory Miyota 8215 (Automatic) and a solid case, that's very reasonable and respectable. Even the visual impression is absolutely positive. From cheap or china ticker therefore a priori can be no question. However, some complaints show the reviews that this label has too often struggling with quality problems.

The suggested retail price of nearly 400 euros is already deep up to our necks in the Seiko empire and let them have dominion from 250 euros class quality made in Japan coupled with top performance and innovation (eg Kinetic, solar).
The actual price of 200 euros for the San Remo, is from my point of view, already quite deep in the entry-level class of Seiko that starts with first-class quality but simple clocks at 140. Since the San Remo can not keep up high. eg shaking the steadies my two San Remo and something is simply unthinkable, but also at the Invicta better or at Orient Seiko, even in the cheapest clock for 140 euros.
From below press Invicta and Orient with similar products and good to very good quality from 80-100 Euro.
Therefore, the positioning of the San Remo at 200 euros, from my point of view, quite problematic.

Personally, I have my two acquired San Remo for respectively 120 and 150, where I feel 150 as the upper limit for a good China-clock of the middle class, but I can still live in the face of good Ausstattug.

But if auftretten any problems with the clock, then that would be a smooth bad buy.
Overall, I find, however, that the San Remo is better than its reputation.

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