these fishermen UX plugs are really awesome. They keep Real in all walls decorated and still quite firm. Is especially in refurbished buildings advantageous where 3 or 4 hits before different wall materials. Since the Fischer UX but cuts a fine figure even in drywall, you need only a dowel. Clear, is a little more expensive than a 0815 plugs from the hardware store. But I find this "investment" is worth it!