Unfortunately I can not share the previous speakers here. However, a bit of technical knowledge is a prerequisite. It works best if you do not adhere to the statement. So bag purely to suit. Close bag up to about 10 cm and roll up from behind. When the air is out, close the last 10 cm. Have a suit for testing rolled 4 weeks before. Is still ok if you do it the other way around (goes) holds the vacuum not as good. Have now again which ordered for the big trip. All in all great and the suit in pristine condition.