I "stand" on KEEN! Already several KEEN shoes, always take to find appropriate from the range, which I like, but I suggest to. The Koven thrilled me for a long time, but the price was too high for me, for I had to slam 59.90. Size (41) as they had hoped just right, comfortable to wear look, clunky (but cool), yet feel pleasantly light to give good grip and sporty look out. The soles are "stiff", but that's winter boots as well and am so far come along well with my KEEN on snow and ice, thinking that belongs to so and is well thought out. I am an avid Keener and can only recommend the Koven. What about WP, I can not comment on as I have not had the misfortune thus come into contact with moisture. However, since there is the shoe in WP and WP not, I go very believes that the WP also delivers what it promises. Koven a good all-rounder, whether hiking, trekking, or with jeans everyday. I'M EXCITED