I wear these semi-shells like when it is not too cold, ie at temperatures between 10 degrees to 5 degrees plus plus. Otherwise, the jacket fits well, is comfortable, has pleasingly large inside pockets in the a Kindle fits well and does not, despite soft paunch the dreaded rump on the back. I can recommend so. 4 * 5 * sinds and not because of the heavy collar is hard to get in shape and keep that always seems a little sloppy ...