To purchase this device's gave me the following reasons: 1. less plastic waste than with capsules 2. in the long run may be the machine if nothing comes off, so amortize because coffee beans cost less than capsules 3. The part was drastically reduced, for 600 would I buy me that is not coffee. Have about 4 hours to the Mahlwerks- and amount settings tried, to me the coffee tasted and I was poor, with the result but I am satisfied. I liked the coffee but not better than,. B. from the Tchibo or Nestle capsule machines. The machine goes on strike in the finest grinding stage, which have here other reviewers also reported (since then lit the pilot light for full marc container, though of yet. "Below" comes out in such case only a droplet of warm water. But has with the marc container to do nothing simply is that the grinder does not grasp the beans. Do not worry, the machine is not broke, it just pushes only on their border. But that you get out only with a little thought, the operating instructions, helping a here absolutely not on and from the reviews of the people who had to strive the customer service, I gather that the customer service that not aiming ...). Personally, I do not need the fine grinding stage, but in a part that is actually so expensive, even this should work. The machine makes during startup, shutdown and coffee making really violent crash. The inner life is, to my astonishment, out of plastic. I think Amazon knows why that is not specifically mentioned in the item description. The manual is very rudimentary, but at least 20 languages for as an expensive device. For susceptibility and reliability of course I can not say anything. Conclusion: The coffee tastes (me), but he's better than Tchibo Cafissimo not (for me). The part is too loud, I would have liked a more solid and plastic poor execution, the grinder has limits and I just hope it's solid than it looks. Overall, it's half the price (if deemed) value, but the original 600 are simply brazen. If you've had a couple wants to pay hundreds of euros for fulfilling the requirements of the type of lifestyle consultant, then you can but equal 'buy ne Jura, right?
