be amazed by the seer, sniff. the first contact with swans I had to cop / Raping A Slave time and since they were quite long gods for me. the individual changes in their style were always traceable development of predecessors. Black / Red for dollars to Lord to rabbits, besides still skin and the whole live releases. and even the generally hated burning world I loved and was a logical consequence. Great Annihilator was s *******, it turned but already the first attempt to unite all the previous phases. My Father I want garnicht mention - another re-union album one of my favorite bands, that I said, "they would have remained even dissolved" (also among others Amebix, discharge and afraid I'm waiting for Black Flag) The Seer's too messed up at the time as a whole and in part, the songs seem broken, just as in Great Annihilator by the way - who pressed a 30 minute piece on 2 VINYL SIDE? by some reviewers were comparisons of neurosis and his associates. Basically, you're right. maybe I did during the swans resolution too much from those heard and now other ideas of a first time know learned by swans, "Wall of Sound", the so-called post-what-so-ever Group can better (Neurosis, Mogwai, amenra, Fall Of Efrafa / Lightbearer, yonl, rosetta etc) and who now upset, just believe me: I had the seer also found rather horny, so crumbling me off another musical legend :-(