And yes, my words are strong but the fact is I know the group, I have seen a number of times, I have also met and collected person as their records and rarities ... I was the fan still and listening to this disc is a bad joke. I will be more demanding who knows that the person who can not appreciate this amateur record of the first hour or magnet for people who knows the most pop songs are shorter, simpler. For me, it's a shame. A quick album well done on the altar of the dollar like their cash machines tours where they go up to pay for a photo shoot without mentioning their series of cruises ... Jon Davison was a beautiful pigeon SINCE 'they let him work and create on this record for grafting stuff I repeat two balls. No title head out of the water, sometimes it is drama (tick)! It turns from heaven to hell for the shot. Come on guys, I love you both so please do not make us that, you disrespect. How to lay such a thing when we created Relay or Close To The Edge ???