When I ordered these lamps, I was very happy to finally find hestétiquement successful flame bulbs. What a disappointment! If visually it would, once mounted on my chandelier that was a big disappointment. These bulbs are very poorly designed and only illuminates up, and if I'm lucky enough to have a white ceiling, it gave a very minimal light, to the point that I had to lower my roller shutter have a (very) rough idea rendering. This kind of lamps is normally intended for ages, and I am very surprised that a manufacturer has had the curious idea to position the LED at the bottom of the bowl. In addition to light these lamps provide that e is extremely pale, even sinister. If I had not ordered at the same time other LED with another manufacturer, white instead of clear, I would say the greatest evil of this technology, like what there is LED and LED.