Since bugged me the movement of my clock with relatively loud ticking, I have decided because of the recessions for the 838 W of Junghans. Unfortunately, the pointer of the old plant did not fit and I had to re-order new new delivery, so better order them together. Without second hand, the work is really hard, or not at all fortuitous with some distance. But you put on a second hand, ticking and the W 838, but not loud. By that I do not watch the golden shaft, I glued a small black pad. That the movement goes exactly is nowadays well of course. Since the axis is not covered and common pointers did not fit, a star deduction.