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UNPACKING:
When unpacking Philips has already thought along earlier, but now yet refined, as a loop for lifting the carton the HD9712 / 01 is included. Here it has a tick in the lead. Otherwise, has not been changed to the previously very good packaging system. Who wants to go on sure grabs here from second.
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FIRST IMPRESSION:
The new machine is a little bigger.
Sure, the front may look noble, but yoy. DAT 9712 8857 has some points that I noticed negative ARE:
- The drip tray is suddenly only half as large.
- As a result, the depth of the footprint has shrunk at a time.
- The place on the Abstellfäche is too narrow and has been built too close to the machine outlet.
- The milk carafe has quite saved, is indeed nice bling-bling, but the feel is indicative of correctly cheap plastic. Since I prefer as the old: Matt black and for a high-quality feel.
- The milk carafe must be formally pure pop, I have the impression that this is a weak point that could wear out quickly, because in 8857 it has never been so difficult.
- The power cord is suddenly only half as long. I've measured it. In 8857 1.0m. In 9712 only 0.5 m. That makes for a lot of x machines on.
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OPERATION:
The switches are indeed self-explanatory, but the menu (in 12 languages) rather nested. Surely, you have settings and even local vending, but I want to have a coffee and not go to the moon.
What we have come to expect, the memory settings, so that each (up to 6 people) can put together his coffee as he / she wants.
But that just takes a little. You have to try each formally.
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COFFEE:
Well to he main task which the machine. Coffee making. We use a regular coffee from the supermarket for 12 kilo from 100% Arabica beans.
Yes, she has a cup of coffee in the lead. The coffee is intense and very aromatic and, depending on the bean very strong. But one has enough screws for.
Where the 9712 takes longer, is when heating because 4 coils for heating the water to be used. For this they needed when rinsing before and after a little less water than as the 8857th
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CLEANING:
Here Saeco has always designed as it pretty easy. One can quite easily remove the inner workings and rinse everything with cold water.
But in any case, I recommend both machines, the Saeco CA6706 / 00 all-Care Set for coffee machines. This keeps the Saeco fully automatic long alive. In particular, the filter keeps lime and particle exclusion for undisturbed enjoyment of coffee.
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MANUAL:
Here the saving was good. In 8857 all 12 books were still in 12 languages with 48 pages in. Now there are two more with far little extent, but only in 4 languages, which I find for Central Europe more than adequate.
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CONCLUSION:
The machine is super, the coffee tastes 1A. The service is far-reaching, but some points are, see above, which cost them an entire star.
Who does not require Bling Bling, better milk can (feel and operation) wants and can do without memo functions, which engages more for 8857/01 from the same manufacturer.
