So did the Teufel Concept E 450 Digital "5.1 set" not here at Amazon ordered because it was not available at the time. Must really say after long back and forth Consider zwieschen Bose and Onkyo I myself last ändlich for the product of the devil decided. In some movies with lots of action you really had partly the feeling of being in the movie in the middle got the system via my stereo connected really an unimaginable sound experience Bass is saturated not too intrusive and the satellite subwoofer really awesome the facility I would with Buy 1000% security again is really worth the money the only problem you should already have room for the subwoofer but it's worth it.