I have now ordered the pants for the 2nd time and sent back. The first time in brown that was mingled with a bit too small, then this here in gray. The colors both looked super. But there's a star. The big disappointment came when unpacking. The trousers definitely made an impression borne for me. She had "seat folds" in the back of the knees and the buttocks. In addition, she was at the rear of dingy and a seam was on. For the grand finale gabs three grease stains on the right leg. This is something I've really never seen on Amazon. Too bad - again I will probably not order.