To get these clips alone on the bra without afterwards awkward to writhe in the bra is a bit unfortunate. Off is also difficult. Since the clip to the carrier on the back you have to need urgently a second person who also makes then. The carriers are then beautifully merged in Ringer style and lead each still Bra Model to the cut this neck-shoulder transition and I am a rather slim man. Depending on how long the carrier can be precisely set. Sooner or later it replaced but then not buying a halter bra. So I could have saved myself the money.